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Another Beginner Gear Post

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Created by Wardo > 9 months ago, 14 Nov 2020
Wardo
NSW, 12 posts
14 Nov 2020 5:14PM
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Hi guys,

Recent lurker, first time poster.
Just after some gear recommendations for a beginner. (Sorry another one of those posts)

I know gear recommendations can be very different from person to person, as we all do things slightly differently.
However I am just after some direction towards ... "you can't go wrong with..."

I have extensive sailing history, and have did some windsurfing up until 6 or 7 years ago.
I am 88kg, and 177cm. I am looking for more of a floater board, rather than a sinker.
Something that won't have me submarine, through an off foil gybe/tack.

I have foiled behind a boat a bit, so I feel like I have a grasp of the basics.
Super keen to get out there on Botany bay, and get stuck into wind foiling.
Plenty of you out there off kyeemah I see! :)

From everything I have read I believe the 120L ish range would serve me well.
And I see Axis 1020 and Naish/equivalent 2000 foils get recommended as a pairing for this.

For boards I have seen, Slingshot Outwit and Naish Hover Sup get good mentions.
A shop has also recommended an Amos shaped Hawk, or a SiC Mako?
Of the 4 what would you recommend? Was 120 - 125L ish range the correct target?

Also as for someone out in 15 - 20 knts. Is a 5 - 5.5m wing the one to go for?
Any recommendations on a wing? Wasps seem to be mentioned a lot.

Thank you in advance!

baldy123
WA, 389 posts
15 Nov 2020 7:01AM
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Welcome to the equipment jungle!! There seems to be more and more gear coming to market all the time these days. Here is my 2 cents. axis foils are a great aluminium Foil setup. Strong, durable and plenty of wing choices. For winging I think the axis glide 1010 is the best allrounders for 85kg riders in <20knot winds. The low aspect 1020 is very slow and only really good for those first few sessions. If you've had foil time already behind a boat then you should be able to learn on a quicker high aspect wing. The Naish gear is also good, but getting close in price to a full carbon setup these days. Armstrong and GoFoil are the pick of the carbon foils. Great wings and zero corrosion issues. For mast length you want something around 75-82cm. plenty of good wing ding choices out there. The ozone wasp is a V1 model and seems to be holding up well for some users. They have slightly floppy handles and a big thick leading edge. If you can find a wasp 5m for good price then it will serve you well. Otherwise consider the doutone 5m Echo(boom), Smik 5m, Ensis 5.2m, Armstrong 4.5/5.5m. f-one swing 5m, takoon 5m.

for boards forget about the slingshot outwit (strange shape and really not that good). The Naish 110l and 125l are good shapes, I personally don't like the graphics. The new Fanatic sky wing board 5'8 at 110 litres would be worth looking at also. If you intend to only wing and not Supfoil, getting down below 6 foot is way nicer when Up and flying.

warwickl
NSW, 2173 posts
15 Nov 2020 11:25AM
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Above is good advice imo.
However you forgot to mention Moses W1100 wing with 400 or 421 stab as it is super easy for anyone. This set up gets up foiling with very little effort.

Pacey
WA, 525 posts
15 Nov 2020 10:05AM
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baldy123 said..
Welcome to the equipment jungle!! There seems to be more and more gear coming to market all the time these days. Here is my 2 cents. axis foils are a great aluminium Foil setup. Strong, durable and plenty of wing choices. For winging I think the axis glide 1010 is the best allrounders for 85kg riders in
for boards forget about the slingshot outwit (strange shape and really not that good). The Naish 110l and 125l are good shapes, I personally don't like the graphics. The new Fanatic sky wing board 5'8 at 110 litres would be worth looking at also. If you intend to only wing and not Supfoil, getting down below 6 foot is way nicer when Up and flying.


At 88kg, don't get a 110 litre board to start on, get at least 125 litres but plan to move down to a smaller board once you have some skills developed.

Wardo
NSW, 12 posts
16 Nov 2020 9:38AM
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Thank you all for taking the time, to give me some input! :)
The Fanatic Sky Wing looks great, and seems to be in stock at the moment in Sydney.
The 6" could be a good option.
It might be time to do some damage to the wallet.

Great tip on the axis 1010 and the Moses.

Thanks again.

paul.j
QLD, 3300 posts
16 Nov 2020 9:30AM
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Wardo said..
Thank you all for taking the time, to give me some input! :)
The Fanatic Sky Wing looks great, and seems to be in stock at the moment in Sydney.
The 6" could be a good option.
It might be time to do some damage to the wallet.

Great tip on the axis 1010 and the Moses.

Thanks again.


On the foil side the Axis is a good start and still I feel the best Alloy set up on the market and unless you want full carbon gear then the Axis 1010 or 1020 are pretty easy forgiving wings to start on.

Board side just another option that might be worth looking at is this one www.oneoceansportsaustralia.com/shop/foil-downwind

The 6'5 x 29 recessed deck is a good easy board that is great for a bit off everything. Built full PVC sandwich in either full Carbon or full glass so light and crazy strong. Need anymore info on this feel free to hit me up.

Jacko

Pacey
WA, 525 posts
16 Nov 2020 7:33AM
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The 6' sky wing would be a good choice for you, big enough to learn on, small enough to still be happy with in 12 months time.

Drewz
QLD, 13 posts
16 Nov 2020 9:55PM
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I purchased the 6' Sky Wing a couple of weeks ago to learn on and I'm really happy with it. Seems to have adequate stability. I'm using it with a 2000 Naish Jetfoil. I'd recommend it but don't have anything to compare it to.

Good luck!
Drew

dejavu
807 posts
25 Nov 2020 4:42AM
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Both JP and North will have a selection of wing specific boards soon along with some inflatables.

Here is a discussion of boards and foils for winging:

normster
NSW, 314 posts
30 Nov 2020 7:45AM
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I'm experienced (? Still trying to sort jibes out) windfoiler on W125

looking for board that i can wing and sup on - I'm 80 kgs - any recommendations - happy to go with something a bit challenging in size/volume ?

emmafoils
307 posts
30 Nov 2020 4:53AM
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normster said..
I'm experienced (? Still trying to sort jibes out) windfoiler on W125

looking for board that i can wing and sup on - I'm 80 kgs - any recommendations - happy to go with something a bit challenging in size/volume ?


General recommendation is wt plus 30-40 L board for learning.

Pay attention to the aspect ratio of the foils. Low AR is much easier to learn on and then you can keep for super light wind conditions.



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