SS is coming out with a crossover foil board
www.slingshotsports.com/Shred-Sled-V1#pdp-detail2
blog.slingshotsports.com/baja-windseeking-with-the-shred-sled-31-hydrofoil-board-wyatt-miller/
Select to expand quoteBender said..
Way too big at 7ft and 140L
Depends on the targeted user I guess. I tried one session on a sup foil on 145L and I found it very difficult.
Match this with the infinity 99 and I think you'd have a pretty good ultra lightwind windfoil board too.
They already sell smaller foil sups for those with winging and sup'ing skills, so I think this board does fill a gap. Especially as the rate windsurfers are getting into winging
We are not all a pro like you Bender :)
This board is aimed for mostly people getting into the Wing foiling, SUP foiling and can use it with a windsurf sail as well.
Bit of a Hybrid to to cover all 3 sports. Being a safe and easy platform, I think the size is pretty spot on (for one board option), as a 'start up board'.
This morning I did ask the Slingshot HQ in the US, about this board and told them that you find it 'to big'.
So they decided to come out with a more specific range of Wing boards (released around December). I hope you will find this sizing below more appealing :) - Also, this was in their pipeline for some time,,
120L
90L
75L
60L
I will let you know more info, when it is getting closer to the release date :)
Too shay Jesper, I'm no pro but i have found length is a major factor with windfoil and wing boards. 7ft is pretty long. Hi volume is fine if you are in light winds where slogging off foil is required. I like their sizings. Some crew are wing foiling on prone boards
The geometry matters too. I believe with this kind of board everything is shifted forwards, so my guess is that the swing weight won't be as apparent because you are standing more forward than other boards.
Select to expand quoteBender said..
Some crew are wing foiling on prone boards
How? Freak skills?
Select to expand quoteBender said..
Too shay Jesper, I'm no pro but i have found length is a major factor with windfoil and wing boards. 7ft is pretty long. Hi volume is fine if you are in light winds where slogging off foil is required. I like their sizings. Some crew are wing foiling on prone boards
They did mention that the best wing guys is getting into using the SS Prone boards coming in 40, 35 and 30L. 5'0 , 4'6 , 4'2
I don't have the length x width of the specific wing boards (120, 90, 75 and 60L), but I guess that closer to December is when they release the spec for those.
What is the volume and size of the one you use now Bender?
Hi Jesper i use 110L and a 90L for 20+knt conditions. Looking at going shorter in length to about the 6ft mark as currently on 6"6'
Select to expand quoteSail Repair WA said..
This board is aimed for mostly people getting into the Wing foiling, SUP foiling and can use it with a windsurf sail as well.
The step tail and far forward track boxes show that wing and SUP foiling are priorities. I bought a very similar JP 3-way board, although it has only 115 l. I've had only a couple of sessions on it, but found that the forward mast position, step tail, and having the mast base much closer to the foil all made it quite difficult to get on the foil with a rig. I could not get a 6.5 m sail, which I use often without any problems on a 110 l Skate and 117 l slalom board, to work at all.
But my wife loves the board for winging, and she also figured out how to foil with a rig when the wind is light. The largest sail she's used on it is a 5.2. She's a fast learner, which helped adjusting to a rather different board. When I suggested that we sell the board again because it's not what I bought it for, she did not like the idea at all.
I like the idea of a 140 l board that's good for wing foiling. But I don't think I'd buy the Shred Sled, unless I'd have an opportunity to test it first.
The new Wizard 125L will have both a Tuttle box and plate mounts. Given that it is half a foot shorter and has 15L less I think I would prefer it for wind/wing foiling, given that I don't SUP foil.
Wyatt has a new video coming out tomorrow on the Shred sled. Anxious to see it, and how the boards performs.
I have had about 6 sessions on the shredsled and like it very much for wind foiling. It was intended to be sailed strapless, but I am using the winging straps, which are not ideal so I am hoping for windsurfing inserts on next year's model.
We had another thread here that discusses the shredsled
secure.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Foiling/Slingshot-Shredsled
Some video of it with i99 and 5.7 naish lift
www.instagram.com/p/CFQrDv-j_aK/
Select to expand quoteratz said..
I require the queen mary just to float my fat carcase.
For myself, I think of it as a container ship. Sounds like at least you are going in style.
BTW, I've seen this huge thing the "Fly 280" mentioned. I never see any people discuss that one and I think that's even way too big for me.
At this point in my windsurfing, I might be more comfortable with a foil specific board of around 180L so I could carry a really big sail in light air with my i99 and easily uphaul. I've dreamed about making such a board but I doubt it will ever happen. My wife would put me out on the street if I tried.
Select to expand quoteShipmate said..ratz said..
I require the queen mary just to float my fat carcase.
For myself, I think of it as a container ship. Sounds like at least you are going in style.
BTW, I've seen this huge thing the "Fly 280" mentioned. I never see any people discuss that one and I think that's even way too big for me.
At this point in my windsurfing, I might be more comfortable with a foil specific board of around 180L so I could carry a really big sail in light air with my i99 and easily uphaul. I've dreamed about making such a board but I doubt it will ever happen. My wife would put me out on the street if I tried.
Levitator 160L. All of my prior experience has been on big boards - Bic Nova 240D, Starboard Rio M. I forget whether the Rio M is 220L or 200L ... but it's still big. Going from that down to the Levitator 160L was a big change for me even without thinking about foiling.
Maybe I should have spent time on a regular board near the size of a 160L board just doing regular windsurfing before trying to use a Levitator 160L and a foil. I really haven't made the transition to a short board yet. My first impression is, it's too wide for non-planning in the chop we usually have where I windsurf and it's not as floaty as I'd like it to be for uphauling in a chop. Maybe what I should be doing is backing off from foiling, get a regular windsurf board in the range of 160L to 180L and get really comfortable with that. Then (next season) give another try with the Levitator 160L and foiling.
I wondered if it might be possible to put a regular fin on the Levitator using the double track mount - or make something custom to do that for the purpose of improving my balance on this smaller board. Due to tides, the foil limits me to high tide +/- 2 hours. If I just used a regular fin I could extend that maybe another 1 1/2 hours on either side of high tide.
Saturday I took my Levitator out and started rigging it so I could start right at 2 hours before high tide. All day the wind was 16 to 24 mph. As I got in the water, I immediately realized the wind had already let up and seemed to be more like 8 to 12 mph. As you can imagine, I was unable to foil. Being that I'm a newbie (3rd year windsurfing), my technique is totally lacking. I'm trying to watch videos on pumping and giving that a try without any real success yet. I've also recently made a bigger effort to lose some weight and the scale is heading in the right direction.
Select to expand quoteShipmate said..
Levitator 160L. All of my prior experience has been on big boards - Bic Nova 240D, Starboard Rio M. I forget whether the Rio M is 220L or 200L ... but it's still big. Going from that down to the Levitator 160L was a big change for me even without thinking about foiling.
Maybe I should have spent time on a regular board near the size of a 160L board just doing regular windsurfing before trying to use a Levitator 160L and a foil. I really haven't made the transition to a short board yet. My first impression is, it's too wide for non-planning in the chop we usually have where I windsurf and it's not as floaty as I'd like it to be for uphauling in a chop. Maybe what I should be doing is backing off from foiling, get a regular windsurf board in the range of 160L to 180L and get really comfortable with that. Then (next season) give another try with the Levitator 160L and foiling.
I wondered if it might be possible to put a regular fin on the Levitator using the double track mount - or make something custom to do that for the purpose of improving my balance on this smaller board. Due to tides, the foil limits me to high tide +/- 2 hours. If I just used a regular fin I could extend that maybe another 1 1/2 hours on either side of high tide.
Saturday I took my Levitator out and started rigging it so I could start right at 2 hours before high tide. All day the wind was 16 to 24 mph. As I got in the water, I immediately realized the wind had already let up and seemed to be more like 8 to 12 mph. As you can imagine, I was unable to foil. Being that I'm a newbie (3rd year windsurfing), my technique is totally lacking. I'm trying to watch videos on pumping and giving that a try without any real success yet. I've also recently made a bigger effort to lose some weight and the scale is heading in the right direction.
Glad you are losing some weight. The levitator 160 seems like the right board for you, I am not sure if more volume and width would help at this stage. The flyer 280 would be even more difficult to uphaul in chop. I like the idea of you just sailing the levitator around to improve your sea legs especially on days when the tide is low. To do this I would just use the foil mast only as a big fin/centerboard (no fuselage or wings). 24 inch mast would work, but the old 15 inch mast might be even better if you can find one.
www.realwatersports.com/products/slingshot-hover-glide-aluminum-mast-15
Select to expand quotethedoor said..Shipmate said..
Levitator 160L. All of my prior experience has been on big boards - Bic Nova 240D, Starboard Rio M. I forget whether the Rio M is 220L or 200L ... but it's still big. Going from that down to the Levitator 160L was a big change for me even without thinking about foiling.
Maybe I should have spent time on a regular board near the size of a 160L board just doing regular windsurfing before trying to use a Levitator 160L and a foil. I really haven't made the transition to a short board yet. My first impression is, it's too wide for non-planning in the chop we usually have where I windsurf and it's not as floaty as I'd like it to be for uphauling in a chop. Maybe what I should be doing is backing off from foiling, get a regular windsurf board in the range of 160L to 180L and get really comfortable with that. Then (next season) give another try with the Levitator 160L and foiling.
I wondered if it might be possible to put a regular fin on the Levitator using the double track mount - or make something custom to do that for the purpose of improving my balance on this smaller board. Due to tides, the foil limits me to high tide +/- 2 hours. If I just used a regular fin I could extend that maybe another 1 1/2 hours on either side of high tide.
Saturday I took my Levitator out and started rigging it so I could start right at 2 hours before high tide. All day the wind was 16 to 24 mph. As I got in the water, I immediately realized the wind had already let up and seemed to be more like 8 to 12 mph. As you can imagine, I was unable to foil. Being that I'm a newbie (3rd year windsurfing), my technique is totally lacking. I'm trying to watch videos on pumping and giving that a try without any real success yet. I've also recently made a bigger effort to lose some weight and the scale is heading in the right direction.
Glad you are losing some weight. The levitator 160 seems like the right board for you, I am not sure if more volume and width would help at this stage. The flyer 280 would be even more difficult to uphaul in chop. I like the idea of you just sailing the levitator around to improve your sea legs especially on days when the tide is low. To do this I would just use the foil mast only as a big fin/centerboard (no fuselage or wings). 24 inch mast would work, but the old 15 inch mast might be even better if you can find one.
www.realwatersports.com/products/slingshot-hover-glide-aluminum-mast-15
I if shipmate needs a short mast, I think i have one I'd give him.
I thought about sailing around without the entire fuse and foils so I could improve my sea legs but I wasn't sure if that would be a good idea. To avoid bugging up the threads I could just put some screws in the screw holes where the fuse would normally connect. One concern I'd have is harpooning myself with the foil mast if I somehow found a way to slam into it. It's probably unlikely but I have thought about it. I could probably shape a piece of wood to make a blunt cap. That might be quick and easy.
There are many days I just took my Rio and left the Levitator home since there was either too much wind or not enough wind. I've also started searching for places I can windsurf safely at low tide and I finally found one but it's about an hour drive. When the weather is right it be be well worth it. I do need much more TOW using the Levitator.
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