Interesting boats for sale

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Chris249 said..

woko said..
Very reminiscent of Bolgers box boats, sailed & motored very well apparently but we're just too ugly to catch on

There are a bunch of people, including former owners of Bolgers, who say they often sailed quite poorly. For a semi-objective viewpoint I looked up the race results I could find and the Bolgers generally re-shaped the boundaries of sloooooooow. I know that speed is not everything, but still.....

One of the boats that some Bolgerphiles pointed to, for example, was a Light Schooner in South Australia. It did OK in long downwind races but it was handicapped slower than the standard older cruiser/racer trailables of the same length, which had to drag around the weight of full interiors whereas the Bolger was an open boat. By open boat standards it was very slow.

Cute boat, and I wouldn't mind a box boat myself, but most of them seem to perform poorly and some ex-owners say some of them were unsafe. Even if speed is not the issue, their safety and ease of handling appear to be dubious when compared to a conventional boat reefed down to the same speed.

There was one I can remember which ( Martha maybe) that was re drawn with sponsons, for very good reasons I guess. Then there was the big sister to the light schooner the folding schooner 30ft open boat with a hinge in the middle ! By Phills own account in a sharp chop he was almost sandwiched in his own contraption. Then old shoe a heavy weight 16 fter, and birdwatcher with a full length cabin and a full length hatch to go with it !

I thought I might duck down to Townsville and have a look at this one. Do we have any Formosa 34 sailors in the group. The problem is, I know sweet FA about them

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/formosa-34-sloop/234049

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Ramona said..
Mark 1 SS34 in Kadina for sale.

www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/kadina/sail-boats/sns-34-yacht/1221899819

Interesting it is not on the "s&s 34 association"

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Donk107 said..

SandS said..
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sharpie-ketch-rigged-launched-2015-exceptional-value/234190

each to their own ...

Someone fell in love with her because she is under contract

Regards Don

That's good news for the owner I guess another "want to live the dream buyer" . ??

www.ss34.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Register-of-Yachts-built-website.pdf

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/sparkman-stephens-34/228681

Thoughts guys?

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LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?

I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.

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Ramona said..

LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?

I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.

One of my favourite Richard Bennett photos from "Ocean Classics" is of a Carter 30 with just one man on deck...

Sorry about the crappy photo quality. the caption says: Bob Lawler's Carter 30 'Firetel' off the New South Wales coast. "It shows the endless wastes and loneliness of the ocean; little boat and lust one the one man to be seen, at the wheel."

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All@Sea said..

Ramona said..

LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?

I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.

One of my favourite Richard Bennett photos from "Ocean Classics" is of a Carter 30 with just one man on deck...

Sorry about the crappy photo quality. the caption says: Bob Lawler's Carter 30 'Firetel' off the New South Wales coast. "It shows the endless wastes and loneliness of the ocean; little boat and lust one the one man to be seen, at the wheel."

That's is a fantastic photo. So the Carter 30, when handled well, have no problem in a blow then.
my sailing waters are far western Victoria, so when I get out from behind the break wall im straight into the southern ocean, the shelf is about 5 mile out.
Ive been surfing for over 20 year so I can read weather pretty well. I remember when we had jump on our pushies down to the milk bar and leaf through the local paper to get the three days Synoptics.
Anyways looking for a half toner or the like, can be handled well single handed and will get me back home should the weather turn hard. I do love a full keel but I don't really need a slug that will cross an ocean at the moment. Got 30k.
Ive looked at a couple of h28's but they seem a bit too Over kill for me.
I like currawongs, had a compass 28 already, more of a traditional lines kinda guy. Can anyone's push me in the right direction? It gets a bit over whelming with options.

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Ramona said..

LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?

I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.

Yeah with wheel and traveler in the cock pit, there isn't much room for or anyone else hey or to stretch out behind a dodger.

Your going to have to explain the wheelbarrow reference I don't get it.
I don't see it as a compliment, though I am partial to a nice 'barra'.... but it's usually full of ****.

www.buyaboat.com.au/buyaboat/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/currawong-30/231660

Ide like your personal opinion on this one Ramona

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shaggybaxter said..

Thoughts on loose footed mains?

Can't collect rainwater?
Other than that, I prefer a loose foot. I find it easier to live with, lashing reef lines around the boom, getting battened sails on off, and general mucking around. And you get a nice clean camber for outhaul trimming.

Very true, would be much easier for reefing as you can just lash where ever. So if you could shimmy a reef line along the boom I guess you could use a single line to reef the clew and just change eyes as you shake or reef. But I guess you kinda don't want to be trying to re run a reefing line when your putting in a third reef?

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Donk107 said..
I am probably going to cop some flak suggesting this but I often look at boats like this and think I could live with that for myself and my wife
We are not looking to cross oceans but just something comfortable for a few weeks away cruising southern Tassie
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/beneteau-oceanis-clipper-343/233544

Regards Don

There are three SS39's for sale at the moment. This one would suit you.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/234710

I would prefer the cheap one for myself. yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-39/230425

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All@Sea said..

Ramona said..

LandofNod said..
ramackayboating.com.au/ra_mackay/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/carter-30/220561/

anyone know anything about Carter 30's they can share?
Think she would be a capable coastal cruiser if you got caught out in the rough stuff?

I considered them before I bought my currawong. This one has a nice interior. Wheel steering would put me off, makes the cockpit very tight. Flattening reef and one full reef in the main with a large overlapping furling headsail looks like she has been a mainly a harbour racer. Much depends on what the other headsails are like but offshore where I am you would just use a furling No2 and a mainsail with 3 reefs. The Carter 30 I believe is lighter and more tender than my Currawong and would probably need to reef earlier. With lazyjacks and a stackpack and with at least one more reef added to the main this would be OK two handed offshore.

One of my favourite Richard Bennett photos from "Ocean Classics" is of a Carter 30 with just one man on deck...

Sorry about the crappy photo quality. the caption says: Bob Lawler's Carter 30 'Firetel' off the New South Wales coast. "It shows the endless wastes and loneliness of the ocean; little boat and lust one the one man to be seen, at the wheel."

Firetel is a 33. If I have the right year I may have been just out of the shot!

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LandofNod said..
Your going to have to explain the wheelbarrow reference I don't get it.
I don't see it as a compliment, though I am partial to a nice 'barra'.... but it's usually full of ****.

www.buyaboat.com.au/buyaboat/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/currawong-30/231660

Ide like your personal opinion on this one Ramona

The t shirt had a man with an enormous (can't put it on a family friendly website) in front of him in a wheelbarrow