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Created by sydchris > 9 months ago, 13 Nov 2019
sydchris
NSW, 387 posts
13 Nov 2019 11:54AM
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Topclimber - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Topclimber-Mast-climber/193202820643

r13
NSW, 1430 posts
13 Nov 2019 9:19PM
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Sorry to say but with these type of load (ie people!!) lifting devices it has to be asked what is the actual practical working load limit (WLL) now compared to when it was first made.
The WLL when it was first made would have a decent factor of safety included - see the Australian Standards - and would have been prior load tested at least for the first run of them but probably each one nowadays. How old is it now? What is the impact of the sun damage on it now? Including the webbing and stitching.
There must be many of these aged devices out there of dubious actual practical WLL capability.
Industrial crane tackle and lifting devices are checked very frequently - see the Bullivants website for all details.
So I realise that we are not talking about a device used frequently but for a device which is aged the frequency of it's prior use is not the issue...................it's fitness for purpose for the next use is the issue......please be aware of all issues.

Ramona
NSW, 7404 posts
14 Nov 2019 8:19AM
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I thought the Topclimber kit came in a bag. If it did have a bag it would be away from UV most of the time.

Jake888
WA, 106 posts
14 Nov 2019 7:09AM
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speaking of interesting boat stuff for sale.
Saw these guys selling some items on Kickstarter: oceanusbrass.com/collections/all

Quite expensive novelty items but they would make a nice present coming up to Christmas.

Guitz
VIC, 610 posts
14 Nov 2019 11:43AM
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id rather have bronze myself

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
14 Nov 2019 6:15PM
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r13 said..
Sorry to say but with these type of load (ie people!!) lifting devices it has to be asked what is the actual practical working load limit (WLL) now compared to when it was first made.
The WLL when it was first made would have a decent factor of safety included - see the Australian Standards - and would have been prior load tested at least for the first run of them but probably each one nowadays. How old is it now? What is the impact of the sun damage on it now? Including the webbing and stitching.
There must be many of these aged devices out there of dubious actual practical WLL capability.
Industrial crane tackle and lifting devices are checked very frequently - see the Bullivants website for all details.
So I realise that we are not talking about a device used frequently but for a device which is aged the frequency of it's prior use is not the issue...................it's fitness for purpose for the next use is the issue......please be aware of all issues.


Having worked for a lifting company and am qualified to manufacture and inspect lifting gear and personnel safety items.

Firstly, this top climber would definitely not be certified under Aus standards. It may be certified under EU or US standards but they are very different to Aus.
The cost to get something passed under Aus standards is extremely prohibitive to small turnover items such as this.

Finally, it's all a mute point anyways as there is no 'legal' way to go up a mast unless you use a cherry picker or a man cage on a crane!!

cisco
QLD, 12311 posts
14 Nov 2019 9:14PM
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rumblefish said..

Finally, it's all a mute point anyways as there is no 'legal' way to go up a mast unless you use a cherry picker or a man cage on a crane!!


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r13
NSW, 1430 posts
14 Nov 2019 11:34PM
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rumblefish said..

r13 said..
Sorry to say but with these type of load (ie people!!) lifting devices it has to be asked what is the actual practical working load limit (WLL) now compared to when it was first made.
The WLL when it was first made would have a decent factor of safety included - see the Australian Standards - and would have been prior load tested at least for the first run of them but probably each one nowadays. How old is it now? What is the impact of the sun damage on it now? Including the webbing and stitching.
There must be many of these aged devices out there of dubious actual practical WLL capability.
Industrial crane tackle and lifting devices are checked very frequently - see the Bullivants website for all details.
So I realise that we are not talking about a device used frequently but for a device which is aged the frequency of it's prior use is not the issue...................it's fitness for purpose for the next use is the issue......please be aware of all issues.



Having worked for a lifting company and am qualified to manufacture and inspect lifting gear and personnel safety items.

Firstly, this top climber would definitely not be certified under Aus standards. It may be certified under EU or US standards but they are very different to Aus.
The cost to get something passed under Aus standards is extremely prohibitive to small turnover items such as this.

Finally, it's all a mute point anyways as there is no 'legal' way to go up a mast unless you use a cherry picker or a man cage on a crane!!


Thanks rumblefish, obviously an excellent summary.



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