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Foiling - 90cm mast

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Created by KIT33R > 9 months ago, 17 Oct 2018
KIT33R
NSW, 1658 posts
17 Oct 2018 8:57AM
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Been foiling on a 70cm mast for a few months now with a fair degree of success but having a lot of trouble progressing to the 90cm mast. It's a totally different animal. Any tips?

bigtone667
NSW, 1089 posts
17 Oct 2018 9:20AM
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KIT33R said..
Been foiling on a 70cm mast for a few months now with a fair degree of success but having a lot of trouble progressing to the 90cm mast. It's a totally different animal. Any tips?


That is rather unusual. Just remember your centre of balance/pivot is further away and everything becomes a little slower.

IMHO, 70cm is more fun as everything is a little closer and faster.

theDoctor
NSW, 4874 posts
17 Oct 2018 11:07AM
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I only have a 90cm as i was told,
'Might as well'
First go, the thing flipped and cracked me in the back of the head.
Second go, thing ran over me and mast cracked me in the shin, felt like i broke my frucking leg.
...anyone wanna buy a foil.?

bigtone667
NSW, 1089 posts
17 Oct 2018 8:42PM
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theDoctor said..

I only have a 90cm as i was told,
'Might as well'
First go, the thing flipped and cracked me in the back of the head.
Second go, thing ran over me and mast cracked me in the shin, felt like i broke my frucking leg.
...anyone wanna buy a foil.?


72 year old guy on the central coast who can give lessons.

ActionSportsWA
WA, 725 posts
18 Oct 2018 2:09PM
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The advantage of the 91 over the 71 is FUF (Far Cup Factor). It gives you more room for error in pitch control. It also allows you to ride in choppier water and to crank hard upwind and also downwind. The short mast is easier for sure and the trick to getting accustomed to the 91, is to ride the board the same height above the water as the 71 (ie, just clearing the wave crests) and enjoy the added depth of the wingtips.

On my 111 mast in the open ocean at speed, I don't have to precisely follow the contours of the waters surface (swells and large chop) to keep the wings submerged, it allows me to keep my speed and make minor adjustments to pitch.

When the mast is submerged, it offers better stability than if half of it is out of the water, so keep the board low to the water until you adjust.

DM

KIT33R
NSW, 1658 posts
18 Oct 2018 7:05PM
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ActionSportsWA said..
The advantage of the 91 over the 71 is FUF (Far Cup Factor). It gives you more room for error in pitch control. It also allows you to ride in choppier water and to crank hard upwind and also downwind. The short mast is easier for sure and the trick to getting accustomed to the 91, is to ride the board the same height above the water as the 71 (ie, just clearing the wave crests) and enjoy the added depth of the wingtips.

On my 111 mast in the open ocean at speed, I don't have to precisely follow the contours of the waters surface (swells and large chop) to keep the wings submerged, it allows me to keep my speed and make minor adjustments to pitch.

When the mast is submerged, it offers better stability than if half of it is out of the water, so keep the board low to the water until you adjust.

DM


Makes sense Daren, I can follow the contours pretty well and only occasionally breach on the 70 but on the 90 the pitch is so much more exaggerated. I'm making incremental improvements each session on the 70 and sometimes coming around toeside and riding for 100m but toeside is not as yet comfortable. (I can ride toeside on a strapless surfboard all day and switch feet with ease 99% of the time). I'll try to keep the 90 low as you suggest but the FUF is high.

Plummet
4598 posts
19 Oct 2018 1:09AM
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Just use the 90cm exclusively. Yourl get in the end.

toppleover
QLD, 1573 posts
19 Oct 2018 8:50PM
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I started with a 45 & found the step up to 90 challenging but once you get going you will never look back.

KIT33R
NSW, 1658 posts
16 Jan 2019 2:38PM
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Update: Happy on the 90cm now. Just took dogged perseverance .

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1364 posts
16 Jan 2019 8:56PM
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Thats good to hear!
I changed from my 600 to 900mm mast last week and am finding it a bit of a pain.
It's fine when I am up and flying, heaps better in avoiding ventilation, but its a bitch to maneuver in the water when trying to water start.

Am also finding quite a lot of places in my local that a 600 cleared the bottom and a 900 doesnt!

KIT33R
NSW, 1658 posts
17 Jan 2019 9:54AM
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Dave Whettingsteel said..
Thats good to hear!
I changed from my 600 to 900mm mast last week and am finding it a bit of a pain.
It's fine when I am up and flying, heaps better in avoiding ventilation, but its a bitch to maneuver in the water when trying to water start.

Am also finding quite a lot of places in my local that a 600 cleared the bottom and a 900 doesnt!


Dave, regarding water start, yes there is a lot more effort required to get it up on the rail With the back hand on the leaward and a bit of elbow pressure in the middle of the tail it gets up easily. Maneuvering the board by the tail is easiest too.



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