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Wing surfers are here to stay..

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Created by SaveTheWhales 5 months ago, 28 May 2019
SaveTheWhales
WA, 1691 posts
28 May 2019 3:47PM
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As the technology has improved with Sups and foils - the Old wing surfers have found their rightful place in Global watersports and accessible by anybody. The regular sup crew wont be restricted by a headwind anymore, great fun for them on ocean swell :)
All they need to do now is make a hideaway extendable Paddle slot - with an elastic net to strap down the wing, if the wind dies and reverts back to awesome flat Sup weather again. Win Win
The harness line setup will wont be far away either..

lotofwind
NSW, 5394 posts
28 May 2019 7:02PM
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Poledancing without the pole

Kamikuza
QLD, 4433 posts
28 May 2019 7:25PM
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Noticed today that the SS ones have an inflatable TE too.

Juddy
WA, 1087 posts
28 May 2019 5:28PM
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Excuse my cynicism, but we're going to have to see just how long this lasts IMO.

Is this a one or two season fad, or is it actually going to be "something"?

Come back to me in two seasons & show me up/happy to be corrected if manufacturers haven't walked away due to lack of sales.

sausage
QLD, 4819 posts
28 May 2019 7:46PM
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Just add a mast and all you kiters will be windsurfing like real men in no time Evolution is a fact!

BTW - I'm with you Juddy

theDoctor
NSW, 4868 posts
28 May 2019 7:53PM
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This whole gender fluidity thing is getting out of hand

djdojo
VIC, 1538 posts
28 May 2019 8:01PM
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Robby was my hero in the 80s, and to see him standing there on that sup at the start, dredging along - how the mighty have fallen. He obviously has no shame. Please move this to the SUP forum.

Chris_M
1842 posts
28 May 2019 6:20PM
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Imagine how good that wing would be if you added some long strings, then it could generate heaps more power and you could do jumps and stuff, that would be awesome....

lotofwind
NSW, 5394 posts
28 May 2019 8:30PM
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^^^^^ Or if you mounted it on a pole attached to the board then it would be........

natho6026961
WA, 41 posts
28 May 2019 7:04PM
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It looks dumb to me but I can see it becoming "something " mainly due to accessibility and the booming sup market.

Mark _australia
WA, 19601 posts
28 May 2019 7:14PM
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far canal
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its the inflatable "i-Rig" that is a cheapo soft version of the windsurf kids rig, developed in the last couple of years to make it easier for beginners. But without the attachment to the board.

How lame.

Kite OR windsurf. Pick one (or do both)

Don't blur the lines with cheesy crap to try and recruit the disinterested. Naish should be embarrassed. Especially as the windsurf world champ for 13yrs running, then inventing kiting.

Robbie- seriousy .... sack the millenial marketing "geniuses" who though of this.

Please. Its like trying to sell a tricycle to those who might want to do triathlon.


cauncy
WA, 7595 posts
28 May 2019 7:37PM
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Is it a bird
Is it a plane

No it's TWAT man

wishy
WA, 1398 posts
28 May 2019 8:25PM
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SUPing combines the worst of surfing and kayaking (you have a craft which paddles slower than a kayak and surfs worse than a surfboard)

Now you have a craft that has the above terrible features plus:

1. It can be windsurfed, but it's slower than a windsurfer.
2. The sail isn't see through like a windsurfer and it isn't above you like a kitesurfer, so you can run into more stuff
3. The sail is handheld 100% of the time so gusts can either knock you off, or make your back hurt.
4. You get both the inconvenience of an enormous windsurfing board, and the inconvenience of having to pump a kite up.

It's pure genius.

Gorgo
VIC, 4274 posts
28 May 2019 10:50PM
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I am looking forward to see how it pans out. It could be a very useful tool to have.

My one niggling concern is that it promises that we can catch waves, turn off the sail, properly surf the wave, then sail back out again. You'd think that with all the brands and riders testing them then we would see somebody doing exactly that. It shouldn't be that hard to do in front of a camera. The most I have seen is somebody riding about 5 seconds of slop.

Mark _australia
WA, 19601 posts
28 May 2019 9:12PM
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^^ There is something that does that......

Naish just lost the plot.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1691 posts
28 May 2019 10:59PM
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And guess which of your favourite brands are bringing this out in the the next few weeks..

lotofwind
NSW, 5394 posts
29 May 2019 2:54AM
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I guess that now that sales (sails) in winsufering have dropped to nearly nothing and all the sail boarding shops have closed around aussie, Naish are trying to fill the void of lost sales and market something that's like sailboarding but you don't need a trailer to get all your gear to the river and is not as restrictive and is a bit more modern and free.

quikdrawMcgraw
1221 posts
29 May 2019 7:50AM
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Gorgo said..
I am looking forward to see how it pans out. It could be a very useful tool to have.

My one niggling concern is that it promises that we can catch waves, turn off the sail, properly surf the wave, then sail back out again. You'd think that with all the brands and riders testing them then we would see somebody doing exactly that. It shouldn't be that hard to do in front of a camera. The most I have seen is somebody riding about 5 seconds of slop.


How do you turn it off when on a wave? Too cumbersome to just make it disappear when on the wave

Kamikuza
QLD, 4433 posts
29 May 2019 10:06AM
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quikdrawMcgraw said..

Gorgo said..
I am looking forward to see how it pans out. It could be a very useful tool to have.

My one niggling concern is that it promises that we can catch waves, turn off the sail, properly surf the wave, then sail back out again. You'd think that with all the brands and riders testing them then we would see somebody doing exactly that. It shouldn't be that hard to do in front of a camera. The most I have seen is somebody riding about 5 seconds of slop.



How do you turn it off when on a wave? Too cumbersome to just make it disappear when on the wave


Let go the back hand. There's at least one example in the video.

NR
WA, 507 posts
29 May 2019 8:39AM
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wishy said..
SUPing combines the worst of surfing and kayaking (you have a craft which paddles slower than a kayak and surfs worse than a surfboard)

Now you have a craft that has the above terrible features plus:

1. It can be windsurfed, but it's slower than a windsurfer.
2. The sail isn't see through like a windsurfer and it isn't above you like a kitesurfer, so you can run into more stuff
3. The sail is handheld 100% of the time so gusts can either knock you off, or make your back hurt.
4. You get both the inconvenience of an enormous windsurfing board, and the inconvenience of having to pump a kite up.

It's pure genius.


Perfect. But for one or 2 seasons you can be the best pro out there on one. Maybe even a shot at some title. Waterman doesn't even come close to also holding one of these contraptions in your hand.

The market I could see more is something packaged with an inflatable sup. just cruising around not looking at any performance. I think combining with a foil board will die down real quick compared to foil kites. IMHO

dusta
WA, 2914 posts
29 May 2019 9:17AM
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this might be good for younger kids to get into it on a small sup maybe ?

quikdrawMcgraw
1221 posts
29 May 2019 9:52AM
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Kamikuza said..

quikdrawMcgraw said..


Gorgo said..
I am looking forward to see how it pans out. It could be a very useful tool to have.

My one niggling concern is that it promises that we can catch waves, turn off the sail, properly surf the wave, then sail back out again. You'd think that with all the brands and riders testing them then we would see somebody doing exactly that. It shouldn't be that hard to do in front of a camera. The most I have seen is somebody riding about 5 seconds of slop.




How do you turn it off when on a wave? Too cumbersome to just make it disappear when on the wave



Let go the back hand. There's at least one example in the video.


Didn't see any examples of "turning it off", at 50 sec he catches a little mush burger left he's still wrangling the big wing ding that's made for catching wind

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1691 posts
29 May 2019 10:20AM
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Nek minute ;)

Kamikuza
QLD, 4433 posts
29 May 2019 1:09PM
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SaveTheWhales said..
Nek minute ;)



Thank you

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1691 posts
29 May 2019 11:21AM
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A great laugh at all the Dementia knockers - who have conveniently forgotten where kitesurfing and windsurfing came from.
And now your riding your favourite brands lol.
Should we take away all your kite gear because some kook years ago said - look at that twit with a kite getting dragged off downwind full power !!!

If the person on a sup with a wing decides he wants more power, takes kite lessons and buys a kite and all the associated gear that helps fund R&D for your favourite kite brand.. is that a bad thing ?

What have the kite companies just achieved ? Opening a doorway for those who otherwise, would not have bothered with kiting or windsurfing at all.

On the other hand - if your local shop goes out of business, your gonna be paying more for your gear to be delivered..

That foiling "Fad" is now a thing too.. in case y'all forgot that too

quikdrawMcgraw
1221 posts
29 May 2019 11:23AM
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I thought you said surfing not doing a foil downwinder riding swells that havnt broken yet, and your still got a big wing ding flapping in the breeze

eppo
WA, 7339 posts
29 May 2019 1:04PM
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I think it's got potential myself and I see some pretty interesting downwinder potential on a sup foil. Bit cumbersome on a wave maybe. Who knows where it will lead. Exciting. Reckon inland crew on lakes and whatsnot would enjoy it with their normal shifty winds. Even coastal crew with crappy wind conditions.

Hey gets you on the water and that's all that matters hey.

Im bullish on it.

Plummet
4591 posts
29 May 2019 1:48PM
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I reckon it's the worst of both worlds.

JayP
QLD, 246 posts
29 May 2019 3:56PM
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im excited about the potential it has to get my kids and wife out on the water sailing. safer than kiting, easier than windsurfing. they can get going on my mini mal or surf SUP.

no harness is going to be a good feeling.

no extra gear or technical setup makes it an easy entry into either kite or windsurf.

warwickl
NSW, 1269 posts
29 May 2019 5:46PM
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Plummet said..
I reckon it's the worst of both worlds.


I bet you make your own within 2 years out of old gear in your shed.



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