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Mambo with Life Vests

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Created by KiteDesigner > 9 months ago, 9 Jul 2016
KiteDesigner
NSW, 169 posts
9 Jul 2016 3:55PM
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Mambo NSW is on, with the new mandatory life vests rule in place.

So who will be kiting in life jackets?

Who will not be going because of life jackets?

Who will be risking the $200 fine or $500 fine if you don't identify yourself?

Or is there some way out of it?

Lambie
QLD, 738 posts
9 Jul 2016 5:54PM
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I'm thinking I'll just steer clear of NSW from now on - the Nanny and Nappy state !!

Why don't surfers in NSW have to wear life jackets? I ride a surfboard - but with added goodness ;-)

wayne22
QLD, 39 posts
9 Jul 2016 7:38PM
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Wtf is goin on.helmets jackets .what nxt knee and elbiw pads for walking down the street.it must stop now communism taking over aren't we allowed to make up our own minds and access the risk.bubble wrap driving a car is nxt .god help us all.dk nazzer

Freddofrog
WA, 522 posts
9 Jul 2016 6:27PM
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wayne22 said..
Wtf is goin on.helmets jackets .what nxt knee and elbiw pads for walking down the street.it must stop now communism taking over aren't we allowed to make up our own minds and access the risk.bubble wrap driving a car is nxt .god help us all.dk nazzer


what's. with. all. the. full. stops.?

wayne22
QLD, 39 posts
9 Jul 2016 8:32PM
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Go put your helmet on

vendeavours
VIC, 361 posts
10 Jul 2016 12:06PM
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Is the rule only if 400m from beach ???? At mambo you would be lucky to be further than that at main beach

KiteDesigner
NSW, 169 posts
10 Jul 2016 2:04PM
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The 400m rule was put in place some 5 years ago, but appears to be not valid now.

If only there was some organization that could represent the NSW kiters and keep us informed.
It would be great to hear from them and what they have to say about this on SB.

It looks like a lack of action from NSWKBA committee ( mostly shop owners or shop team riders ),
At least the NSWKBA guys had time to stock up on life jackets and posted about that on facebook.

Robbo2099 posted the below:

"5 years ago NSW Maritime proposed a compromise: that life jackets only be required on open waters (ocean) when kiting alone and more than 400m off shore. Rather than becoming embroiled in a protracted fight with NSW Maritime, we decided to accept this and move on, which was what was enacted in the legislation.

It now appears that this has been disregarded for whatever reason in the new legislation. Would appear that NSWKBA might want to make an urgent approach to see if they can renegotiate these original terms back into the legislation, as from what I am aware, there has been no change to the evidence. "

So will mambo look like the image above? lots of pretty life vests?

Lambie
QLD, 738 posts
10 Jul 2016 2:08PM
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More likely a boycott and nobody will turn up ...............

vendeavours
VIC, 361 posts
10 Jul 2016 4:46PM
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Life jacket on or off I will not miss out on such a great event

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
10 Jul 2016 6:35PM
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wayne22 said..
communism


I dont think that word means what you think it means...

wayne22
QLD, 39 posts
10 Jul 2016 8:05PM
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State control

theDoctor
NSW, 5767 posts
11 Jul 2016 12:12AM
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Wrong context

Zebra80
NSW, 352 posts
13 Jul 2016 8:15PM
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KiteDesigner said..
The 400m rule was put in place some 5 years ago, but appears to be not valid now.

If only there was some organization that could represent the NSW kiters and keep us informed.
It would be great to hear from them and what they have to say about this on SB.

It looks like a lack of action from NSWKBA committee ( mostly shop owners or shop team riders ),
At least the NSWKBA guys had time to stock up on life jackets and posted about that on facebook.

Robbo2099 posted the below:

"5 years ago NSW Maritime proposed a compromise: that life jackets only be required on open waters (ocean) when kiting alone and more than 400m off shore. Rather than becoming embroiled in a protracted fight with NSW Maritime, we decided to accept this and move on, which was what was enacted in the legislation.

It now appears that this has been disregarded for whatever reason in the new legislation. Would appear that NSWKBA might want to make an urgent approach to see if they can renegotiate these original terms back into the legislation, as from what I am aware, there has been no change to the evidence. "

So will mambo look like the image above? lots of pretty life vests?


WSWKA and KA not doing any thing for the sport .
It looks like a lack of action from NSWKBA committee ( mostly shop owners or shop team riders ),
At least the NSWKBA guys had time to stock up on life jackets and posted about that on facebook.

they only thinking about sales

pro merc
NSW, 300 posts
14 Jul 2016 2:50PM
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KiteDesigner said..
The 400m rule was put in place some 5 years ago, but appears to be not valid now.

If only there was some organization that could represent the NSW kiters and keep us informed.
It would be great to hear from them and what they have to say about this on SB.

It looks like a lack of action from NSWKBA committee ( mostly shop owners or shop team riders ),
At least the NSWKBA guys had time to stock up on life jackets and posted about that on facebook.

Robbo2099 posted the below:

"5 years ago NSW Maritime proposed a compromise: that life jackets only be required on open waters (ocean) when kiting alone and more than 400m off shore. Rather than becoming embroiled in a protracted fight with NSW Maritime, we decided to accept this and move on, which was what was enacted in the legislation.

It now appears that this has been disregarded for whatever reason in the new legislation. Would appear that NSWKBA might want to make an urgent approach to see if they can renegotiate these original terms back into the legislation, as from what I am aware, there has been no change to the evidence. "

So will mambo look like the image above? lots of pretty life vests?


Maybe you should ask the committee what happened before pointing the finger and making un educated posts on Seabreaze.

So what if it is team riders or shop owners on the committee? We give our time freely for the good of trying to help the sport in NSW.

NSWKBA do not sell equipment and have not stocked up on life jackets. RMS were at the AGM and showed attendee's an option of what would be suitable to wear.
Can you blame shops for stocking a product that is now law? Maybe you should yell at all the bike shops for selling helmets as well.....how dare they!

So you know what exactly happened. This ruling was posted on a website not easily found and despite NSWKBA having dealing about this previously we were not aware about it until a few days before deadline. Emails about all previous correspondence were sent with no response.
The ruling looks like it was wanted to go through unchallenged, this is why we were not alerted to it.

KA have been doing what they can about this. At the end of the day we are a minority and just because we don't like it or stamp our feet wont mean we can get a law changed. It looks to be the same minister that did the bike laws behind this one.

kemp90
QLD, 1692 posts
14 Jul 2016 3:04PM
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pro merc said...
KiteDesigner said..
The 400m rule was put in place some 5 years ago, but appears to be not valid now.

If only there was some organization that could represent the NSW kiters and keep us informed.
It would be great to hear from them and what they have to say about this on SB.

It looks like a lack of action from NSWKBA committee ( mostly shop owners or shop team riders ),
At least the NSWKBA guys had time to stock up on life jackets and posted about that on facebook.

Robbo2099 posted the below:

"5 years ago NSW Maritime proposed a compromise: that life jackets only be required on open waters (ocean) when kiting alone and more than 400m off shore. Rather than becoming embroiled in a protracted fight with NSW Maritime, we decided to accept this and move on, which was what was enacted in the legislation.

It now appears that this has been disregarded for whatever reason in the new legislation. Would appear that NSWKBA might want to make an urgent approach to see if they can renegotiate these original terms back into the legislation, as from what I am aware, there has been no change to the evidence. "

So will mambo look like the image above? lots of pretty life vests?


Maybe you should ask the committee what happened before pointing the finger and making un educated posts on Seabreaze.

So what if it is team riders or shop owners on the committee? We give our time freely for the good of trying to help the sport in NSW.

NSWKBA do not sell equipment and have not stocked up on life jackets. RMS were at the AGM and showed attendee's an option of what would be suitable to wear.
Can you blame shops for stocking a product that is now law? Maybe you should yell at all the bike shops for selling helmets as well.....how dare they!

So you know what exactly happened. This ruling was posted on a website not easily found and despite NSWKBA having dealing about this previously we were not aware about it until a few days before deadline. Emails about all previous correspondence were sent with no response.
The ruling looks like it was wanted to go through unchallenged, this is why we were not alerted to it.

KA have been doing what they can about this. At the end of the day we are a minority and just because we don't like it or stamp our feet wont mean we can get a law changed. It looks to be the same minister that did the bike laws behind this one.


There are only 4 people on the committee. And they fort hard and won 4 years ago when they tried to unforced this rule.
Then when it came time to review the rule, they gave the public 30 days to contest it, BUT they didn't tell anyone! This is how the rule got unforced.

Don't blam the committee!

MrFreeze
289 posts
14 Jul 2016 1:54PM
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Lambie said..


Why don't surfers in NSW have to wear life jackets? I ride a surfboard - but with added goodness ;-)




Hmmmmm, This man might have some bearing on that question. BTW you would think he could afford a decent wettie.

bjw
NSW, 3584 posts
14 Jul 2016 6:23PM
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What's with that girls style?

Waveswindy
NSW, 114 posts
14 Jul 2016 10:10PM
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bjw said..
What's with that girls style?


I thought that was you Will?

Gilly3
QLD, 794 posts
15 Jul 2016 7:51AM
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Freddofrog said...
wayne22 said..
Wtf is goin on.helmets jackets .what nxt knee and elbiw pads for walking down the street.it must stop now communism taking over aren't we allowed to make up our own minds and access the risk.bubble wrap driving a car is nxt .god help us all.dk nazzer


what's. with. all. the. full. stops.?


Grammar is important though....

Capital Letters can make a big difference when "helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" or "helping your uncle jack off a horse"

kemp90
QLD, 1692 posts
15 Jul 2016 9:54AM
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Gilly3 said..

Freddofrog said...

wayne22 said..
Wtf is goin on.helmets jackets .what nxt knee and elbiw pads for walking down the street.it must stop now communism taking over aren't we allowed to make up our own minds and access the risk.bubble wrap driving a car is nxt .god help us all.dk nazzer



what's. with. all. the. full. stops.?



Grammar is important though....

Capital Letters can make a big difference when "helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" or "helping your uncle jack off a horse"


hahaha that is gold!!



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